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Yes…with the mind set "the quicker i get this bullshit done the quicker I can do what i want to"

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That is fair, and shows a willingness to play the sytem not imediately apparent in the write up, an interesting attitude given the situation :twisted:

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I agree that I don't think the "almost dying but bounces back" should be there. Sounds Stu-ish, and I don't think you need some excuse for him to have been "out of order" for the RP threads we've already done. Just pretend he was there and just didn't really interact with people. On the other hand, if you think it would be too retcon-y to create a week's worth of story for him, you can just say the Stark guards were a bit too rough with him on day 1 or day 2 of testing.
btw It's Circe HQ, not Stark HQ.

Beyond that, history still needs to be longer. Explain why his name is a problem, explain how he was able to skip grades despite authority problems (I'm not sure I like the explanation given so far and would like to see more), fill in more about his family, explain more about his faith issues (as it stands, the single sentence mention you give fits more into personality description than history, as there's no "story" to it - why is it important to mention?), etc.


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Re: name
Okay, I was afraid of this.... going with the "it sounds too girly" reason for teasing. "Alexis" is a popular girls' name, but it and variants of it are perfectly acceptable guys' names, too, though admittedly more so outside of English-speakign countries and more so historically as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_%28 ... guation%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_%28given_name%29
Anyway, if you want to go with it, I guess that's okay, but unless someone else supports the notion I'm skeptical.

Re: history/story
Heh, school politics. Cynical; I don't quite like it as an opinion, but as a character aspect it fits. =-)
For the rest, though....
Again, you should've browsed the plot and other info threads before writing stuff. All those experiences with the injection and the "solo testing room" do not jive with canon.


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Week I'm not ar school again till Monday so i'll fix it then

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when he wakes up he's not being tested he being monitored after the injection (injected while KO'd)

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Sorry for taking so long to realize there had been an update.
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when he wakes up he's not being tested he being monitored after the injection (injected while KO'd)
Okay; still, this doesn't jive with plot. As McF has had six previous generation to fine-tune things, every test subject "woke up" within an hour or so of each other, everyone already in their cages.


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Claim your character was just not talking much due to shock. That's a valid excuse, considering. XD

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Sorry for taking so long to realize there had been an update.
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when he wakes up he's not being tested he being monitored after the injection (injected while KO'd)
Okay; still, this doesn't jive with plot. As McF has had six previous generation to fine-tune things, every test subject "woke up" within an hour or so of each other, everyone already in their cages.

he was ko'd...he has to wake up from the knock out, its not the injection its the blow to the back of the head.

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 Post subject: Re: [Van] Alexi Holland
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:41 am 
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I'm late to the party, but that just means I get to wade through fewer rough drafts, yes? It sounds like quite a few changes have already been made, but I still see kinks to work out before I'm willing to give you my passing grade.

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Name: Alexi Holland If Alexi is short for Alexander, the correct name form would read: Alexander "Alexi" Holland, or would list Alexi as a nickname.
AKA: Shade Does he get this before or after inoculation?
Gender: male
Age: 19
Place of Birth:Garden Grove, California
Inoculated:yes

Personality: Alexi is a punk. In terms of teenage self-labeling? Or in terms of serious life choices? Or is this a label given to him by the grownups? He has little respect for authority. Define authority. Do you mean government/teachers/sanctioned authority? Or is it an attitude toward anyone seeking to exert control over his life? And "little respect" is very vague. Tell me how he disrespects authority. Actions? Words? Or only an attitude? He despises anyone that makes fun of his name (Alexi is short for Alexander and Alexis). Despise is a strong word. Why such a big word for such a little transgression? That shows a lot of pent up or misguided anger toward something that every kid puts up with at some point in their lives. To still be so angry about it makes for a rather immature character. He is very confrontational and likes to fight. His temper got him in trouble a lot. Expand. You could talk about manifestations of his attitudes toward authority or simply tell us more about how or why he's so aggressive. Is it home life? rough neighborhood? lots of testosterone? He considers himself a combat pragmatist and is not above using what some people would call “underhanded tricks”. When he is serious he can be ruthless, this includes using his powers to temporally stun his opponents.Before inoculation, how "ruthless" was he? Had he ever sent someone to the hospital from an altercation? In his cat form he prefers to use ahock and awe tactics.

History:He was raised in Garden Grove, California. He’s His. He's is the contraction of He is. name is a shortened version of Alexander. His name led to a lot of fights during his school years due to the fact and its 1 letter away from being "Alexis" (I know lame but kids are pricks). I don't buy it at all. I can buy getting teased for having an unusual name, but after one or two fights it would stop. Unless you are implying he lost all those fights - which wouldn't seem in keeping with your current outline. If Alexi was bullied in school, it might account for some of his anger issues, but you need to be way more specific. Being bullied implies he was an easy target. He has an extremely high IQ. Was raised in a strict catholic household but broke away from the faith in Jr. High due to no one in the church being able to answer his consent questioning. I believe you mean "constant," as "consent questioning" takes us down a very different road. He graduated high school at 16 (grade skipping), even though he has problems with authority, the school let him graduate to make them look good. Absolutely not. This doesn't pass the sniff test. You can have an authority snubbing punk who is secretly smart and may have been held back for his trouble making OR you can have a bullied genius with anger issues who nonetheless sped through school by being a Very Good Boy. You do not get to have both stereotypes without doing a MUCH better job convincing me. And I'm a teacher with experience in administration, so you'd be working VERY hard. During this time he joined a punk band called Twin Blade. During what time? Also, what does he play? Is the band any good? Is HE any good? Being IN a band doesn't by itself mean much at all.

He has a BA in Journalism and Mass Communication from Ashford University in California. Why? How? At 19 he may be working on a BA, or he might have an AA or on AS. Even with your original grade skipping plot, I don't see how he has already completed a BA with two majors - even if they are related fields. He allowed himself to be injected to fund his band. Again - we need more information. What about funding his tuition? What does he do fpr a living? If he needs to sell his body to fund his band, they obviously aren't good enough to be supporting him. (Which is fine, btw! I'm cool with him fnding his hobby this way - I just need more info.) He was told it was for a drug trial being performed by an independent testing group for a major pharmaceutical company and that he would be paid for his time, he was going to use the money to fund his bands EP. His what now? He was taken to an abandon building, knocked unconscious, and taken to Circe HQ.

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Visual Appearance(completely optional):http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ku8ow9Op0U1qatqpuo1_500.jpg

Physical Appearance: red hair, skinny, stands about 6 feet. He is bisonen (he’s a pretty boy). Wears his hair in a pony tail. His cat form is a full grown male Siberian tiger. Eyes? Build? (lanky or lean or malnourished or?) Fashion choices? Scars or tattoos or piercings? Where? When? General demeanor? Etc.

Inoculated characters, please describe both forms in detail.

Clothing and Armor: silk shirt, hemp pants, hemp necklace. Is this before inoculation? Or after? Why choose organic material prior to inoculation? Doesn't seem consistent.

Weapons Blades (Bowie knifes) and 2 Beretta 92's (he will steal these later) Really? From where? Don't assume the guards carry these. Matthews wouldn't let them after what happened in the cage room. You would need to escape back to civilization before you could get your hands on those. Maybe one knife, but you'd have to be lucky. And it won't shift with you.

[i]Inoculated only


Alternate Form full grown male Siberian tiger

Abilities (in human form). (in cat form) bio electric control (can use his own bioelectric impulses in offensive H2H (hand2hand combat) combat), he has burns on his figure tips because of it) and minor electricity manipulation (he can shoot lightening from claws and mouth). Bioelectrogenesis is the scientific name for his power. It’s similar to what electric eels use.

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Faction: solo (currently)
Bonus Section: Alexi's story
I went to the building the drug company reps told me to meet then at. I should have know something was wrong when it turned out to be an abandoned factory, but I entered anyway, the band needed the money and we were all working our asses off for the studio money. I was jumped by 2 big, ugly motherf*ckers and went down like a a lead balloon. When I woke up I was in an all white room with tubes coming out of me. I panicked and started to rip them off and then the damn EKG machine started beeping. That was when I discovered my power as the machine short circuited when i hit it. I was taken to a cage area after that and the rest is history.


Over all, I'd like to see more attention to detail, both in your writing and in your character creation. What others identify as Marty Stu-ishness, I'm reading as too many gaps without enough definitive choices being made. Accept that you can't have it all for your character. Once you've done that, I think Alexi will be a fun addition to our little team.

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Physical Appearance: red hair, skinny, stands about 6 feet. He is bisonen (he’s a pretty boy). Wears his hair in a pony tail. His cat form is a full grown male Siberian tiger. Eyes? Build? (lanky or lean or malnourished or?) Fashion choices? Scars or tattoos or piercings? Where? When? General demeanor? Etc.

Inoculated characters, please describe both forms in detail.

Clothing and Armor: silk shirt, hemp pants, hemp necklace. Is this before inoculation? Or after? Why choose organic material prior to inoculation? Doesn't seem consistent. before, no reason,

Weapons Blades (Bowie knifes) and 2 Beretta 92's (he will steal these later) Really? From where? Don't assume the guards carry these. Matthews wouldn't let them after what happened in the cage room. You would need to escape back to civilization before you could get your hands on those. Maybe one knife, but you'd have to be lucky. And it won't shift with you. like I said LATER

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Van wrote:
Physical Appearance: red hair, skinny, stands about 6 feet. He is bisonen (he’s a pretty boy). Wears his hair in a pony tail. His cat form is a full grown male Siberian tiger. Eyes? Build? (lanky or lean or malnourished or?) Fashion choices? Scars or tattoos or piercings? Where? When? General demeanor? Etc.

Inoculated characters, please describe both forms in detail.

Clothing and Armor: silk shirt, hemp pants, hemp necklace. Is this before inoculation? Or after? Why choose organic material prior to inoculation? Doesn't seem consistent. before, no reason,

Weapons Blades (Bowie knifes) and 2 Beretta 92's (he will steal these later) Really? From where? Don't assume the guards carry these. Matthews wouldn't let them after what happened in the cage room. You would need to escape back to civilization before you could get your hands on those. Maybe one knife, but you'd have to be lucky. And it won't shift with you. like I said LATER


You haven't actually addressed any of my questions with this post. People always have reasons for making choices, and that particular choice (to wear all organic material) made without any in-character reasoning stinks of player foreknowledge rather than good character detail. There are plenty of reasons he might choose that outfit, though few of them mesh with the rest of your characterization.

LATER isn't good enough. If you mean "someday, if he survives to escape McFarland," than say so. If you're trying to say "later in the RP," then we have a problem and you need to address my questions.

My questions and nit picking are intended to help you flesh out your character so that you have a real person who will be interesting to interact with. Please take the time to consider the questions and add more details. I promise your character will become more interesting the more fleshed out he gets. Details expand characters.

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I personally like the "consent questioning". "Can I do this?", "Did you get permission for that?", "Who said that was allowed?"

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Physical Appearance: red hair, skinny, stands about 6 feet. He is bisonen (he’s a pretty boy). Wears his hair in a pony tail. His cat form is a full grown male Siberian tiger. Eyes? Build? (lanky or lean or malnourished or?) Fashion choices? Scars or tattoos or piercings? Where? When? General demeanor? Etc.

Inoculated characters, please describe both forms in detail.

Clothing and Armor: silk shirt, hemp pants, hemp necklace. Is this before inoculation? Or after? Why choose organic material prior to inoculation? Doesn't seem consistent. before, no reason,

Weapons Blades (Bowie knifes) and 2 Beretta 92's (he will steal these later) Really? From where? Don't assume the guards carry these. Matthews wouldn't let them after what happened in the cage room. You would need to escape back to civilization before you could get your hands on those. Maybe one knife, but you'd have to be lucky. And it won't shift with you. like I said LATER


You haven't actually addressed any of my questions with this post. People always have reasons for making choices, and that particular choice (to wear all organic material) made without any in-character reasoning stinks of player foreknowledge rather than good character detail. There are plenty of reasons he might choose that outfit, though few of them mesh with the rest of your characterization.

LATER isn't good enough. If you mean "someday, if he survives to escape McFarland," than say so. If you're trying to say "later in the RP," then we have a problem and you need to address my questions.

My questions and nit picking are intended to help you flesh out your character so that you have a real person who will be interesting to interact with. Please take the time to consider the questions and add more details. I promise your character will become more interesting the more fleshed out he gets. Details expand characters.
after the breakout, after he goes solo and "borrows" them from a group of poachers

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Van wrote:
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Weapons Blades (Bowie knifes) and 2 Beretta 92's (he will steal these later) Really? From where? Don't assume the guards carry these. Matthews wouldn't let them after what happened in the cage room. You would need to escape back to civilization before you could get your hands on those. Maybe one knife, but you'd have to be lucky. And it won't shift with you. like I said LATER
. . . LATER isn't good enough. If you mean "someday, if he survives to escape McFarland," then say so. If you're trying to say "later in the RP," then we have a problem and you need to address my questions. . . .
after the breakout, after he goes solo and "borrows" them from a group of poachers

Ok, this is a start at answering one question. You're still assuming a lot - such as a group of poachers being allowed anywhere near the facility. Even allowing for your character escaping the outer perimeter, I then question why there are poachers and why they are carrying those weapons. What are they poaching? How did they get so far into the wilderness? What makes this a cost-effective venture?

EDIT: I acknowledge that these questions are asking you to put a lot of thought into the motivations of characters not your own. If you would rather spend your time trying to flesh out the particulars of Alexi's character, then I might be willing to grant you poachers who don't actually have a reason for being where they are.

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Ok, this is a start at answering one question. You're still assuming a lot - such as a group of poachers being allowed anywhere near the facility. Even allowing for your character escaping the outer perimeter, I then question why there are poachers and why they are carrying those weapons. What are they poaching? How did they get so far into the wilderness? What makes this a cost-effective venture?[/quote]why the fuck does it matter poachers aren't logical we know he'll escape because its the plot. they have shotguns too I just won't take them too cumbersome, the knife is for skinning the pistols are for defense in case they get caught with their pants down, so to speak. its located in Wyoming, its what late summer/early fall, that's the start hunting season, but if you don't have a license, its poaching, i mug them and tie them up (tent cord), and take their guns and a knife. this was going to be expanded in the rp.

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Ok, this is a start at answering one question. You're still assuming a lot - such as a group of poachers being allowed anywhere near the facility. Even allowing for your character escaping the outer perimeter, I then question why there are poachers and why they are carrying those weapons. What are they poaching? How did they get so far into the wilderness? What makes this a cost-effective venture?
why the fuck does it matter poachers aren't logical we know he'll escape because its the plot. they have shotguns too I just won't take them too cumbersome, the knife is for skinning the pistols are for defense in case they get caught with their pants down, so to speak. its located in Wyoming, its what late summer/early fall, that's the start hunting season, but if you don't have a license, its poaching, i mug them and tie them up (tent cord), and take their guns and a knife. this was going to be expanded in the rp.


You are entirely missing the point.

Please re-read my first response to your character, and continue to work on developing significant character details. As your character currently stands, I don't think he's fleshed out enough to play effectively. I cannot give him an approving vote right now. Please note that I am one of the assistant mods, and you do need two mod votes in order to play. I am not trying to antagonize you, I am trying to help you create a strong character.

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Ok, this is a start at answering one question. You're still assuming a lot - such as a group of poachers being allowed anywhere near the facility. Even allowing for your character escaping the outer perimeter, I then question why there are poachers and why they are carrying those weapons. What are they poaching? How did they get so far into the wilderness? What makes this a cost-effective venture?
why the fuck does it matter poachers aren't logical we know he'll escape because its the plot. they have shotguns too I just won't take them too cumbersome, the knife is for skinning the pistols are for defense in case they get caught with their pants down, so to speak. its located in Wyoming, its what late summer/early fall, that's the start hunting season, but if you don't have a license, its poaching, i mug them and tie them up (tent cord), and take their guns and a knife. this was going to be expanded in the rp.


You are entirely missing the point.

Please re-read my first response to your character, and continue to work on developing significant character details. As your character currently stands, I don't think he's fleshed out enough to play effectively. I cannot give him an approving vote right now. Please note that I am one of the assistant mods, and you do need two mod votes in order to play. I am not trying to antagonize you, I am trying to help you create a strong character.

i want him to progress and have his story and character exposed through out the story. I'm sorry I'm a writer its equal to wallotext exposition, something you under no condition do.

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